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		<title>Comment on Remembering Europe by Memory and its Malcontents &#171; Europe Endless</title>
		<link>http://historylibrarian.wordpress.com/2007/10/18/remembering-europe/#comment-7042</link>
		<dc:creator>Memory and its Malcontents &#171; Europe Endless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 02:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 23, 2007 Memory and its&#160;Malcontents Posted by ndrobins under Europe , Memory &#160;  History Librarian points to the current Eurozine: European Memory: Towards a Grand Narrative, with offerings by several heavy [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 23, 2007 Memory and its&nbsp;Malcontents Posted by ndrobins under Europe , Memory &nbsp;  History Librarian points to the current Eurozine: European Memory: Towards a Grand Narrative, with offerings by several heavy [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Junot Diaz Interview by Celia Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Celia Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 14:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out an exclusive interview with Junot Diaz about his life before becoming a successful writer in Slice, a new literary magazine, which is available now. www.slicemagazine.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out an exclusive interview with Junot Diaz about his life before becoming a successful writer in Slice, a new literary magazine, which is available now. <a href="http://www.slicemagazine.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.slicemagazine.org</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Google Custom Search Engine for History by Cardinal Wolsey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cardinal Wolsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 08:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The search box is nifty - thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The search box is nifty &#8211; thanks.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Follow-up to &#8220;On scholarly communication &#8230;&#8221; by Miland Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miland Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 13:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tag! You&#039;re it!

I&#039;ve chosen your site to be &quot;it&quot; in a virtual game of history blog tag. 

For more information, please visit the World History Blog at http://www.worldhistoryblog.com/2007/07/tagged-by-jennie.html.

Miland Brown</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tag! You&#8217;re it!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve chosen your site to be &#8220;it&#8221; in a virtual game of history blog tag. </p>
<p>For more information, please visit the World History Blog at <a href="http://www.worldhistoryblog.com/2007/07/tagged-by-jennie.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.worldhistoryblog.com/2007/07/tagged-by-jennie.html</a>.</p>
<p>Miland Brown</p>
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		<title>Comment on Follow-up to &#8220;On scholarly communication &#8230;&#8221; by Clio Bluestocking</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clio Bluestocking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 20:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That wiki is great! What a wonderful idea, not just for grad students studying for a comprehensive exam, but for historians to keep up with literature outside of their specific field. This could be a great boon to community college teachers who have to go quite far afield from their research subjects. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That wiki is great! What a wonderful idea, not just for grad students studying for a comprehensive exam, but for historians to keep up with literature outside of their specific field. This could be a great boon to community college teachers who have to go quite far afield from their research subjects. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on On scholarly communication among historians by John Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 23:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And why specifically JSTOR?  Because it&#039;s a limited universe of the most important history journals (and it&#039;s full text).  I&#039;ve run into both students and faculty who have been using JSTOR a lot but have no idea that it&#039;s only back issues (and thus that they are not seeing any recent scholarship).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And why specifically JSTOR?  Because it&#8217;s a limited universe of the most important history journals (and it&#8217;s full text).  I&#8217;ve run into both students and faculty who have been using JSTOR a lot but have no idea that it&#8217;s only back issues (and thus that they are not seeing any recent scholarship).</p>
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		<title>Comment on On scholarly communication among historians by Clio Bluestocking</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clio Bluestocking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 05:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and P.S. Yes, the way that historians look for information is absolutely important to librarians so that librarians can learn where to insert themselves into the research process to help both the historians do their job and to find out what the historians need so that the librarian can do his/her job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and P.S. Yes, the way that historians look for information is absolutely important to librarians so that librarians can learn where to insert themselves into the research process to help both the historians do their job and to find out what the historians need so that the librarian can do his/her job.</p>
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		<title>Comment on On scholarly communication among historians by Clio Bluestocking</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clio Bluestocking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 05:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know how much my help my input will be (especially since I&#039;ve just driven through three states of cornfields!); but here goes. 

I must admit, if I were seeking to become more of an expert in a different field of history, then I would probably ask someone in that field first because I would not so much be looking for tons of information about the subject so much as for the major current debates in that particular field. In other words, the historiography, which I expect a historian to know but not a librarian simply because of that distinction in professions. My second step would be to go through WorldCat for the monographs and J-Stor for the articles. Then, as my research became more in depth, I would turn to a librarian or archivist. I&#039;ve actually found librarians and archivists the most help at the local level because they know their collections the best and (in most cases) know neighboring collections in passing. 

Now, when I was working as an archivist (or what passed for one) I found that I was of much more use to the patrons if I could tell them where to find each of these levels of information. For instance, since I was working at a place where the subject was fairly specific, I could be of use if I knew the prominent historians or writers in that general field. I could also be of use if I knew the recent publications in the field, which would be the doorway into the debates in the field, and if knew the types of records that were commonly used in the field. In other words, if I had sort of an understanding of how historians put together a book and where to go to find specialized information on the subject of that book, then I could be most effective in helping the patron -- if that makes sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know how much my help my input will be (especially since I&#8217;ve just driven through three states of cornfields!); but here goes. </p>
<p>I must admit, if I were seeking to become more of an expert in a different field of history, then I would probably ask someone in that field first because I would not so much be looking for tons of information about the subject so much as for the major current debates in that particular field. In other words, the historiography, which I expect a historian to know but not a librarian simply because of that distinction in professions. My second step would be to go through WorldCat for the monographs and J-Stor for the articles. Then, as my research became more in depth, I would turn to a librarian or archivist. I&#8217;ve actually found librarians and archivists the most help at the local level because they know their collections the best and (in most cases) know neighboring collections in passing. </p>
<p>Now, when I was working as an archivist (or what passed for one) I found that I was of much more use to the patrons if I could tell them where to find each of these levels of information. For instance, since I was working at a place where the subject was fairly specific, I could be of use if I knew the prominent historians or writers in that general field. I could also be of use if I knew the recent publications in the field, which would be the doorway into the debates in the field, and if knew the types of records that were commonly used in the field. In other words, if I had sort of an understanding of how historians put together a book and where to go to find specialized information on the subject of that book, then I could be most effective in helping the patron &#8212; if that makes sense.</p>
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		<title>Comment on On scholarly communication among historians by John Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 00:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clio, look at you celebrating hybridity!  You&#039;re so post-something.  Haven&#039;t you read Historians are from [planet name] and Librarians are from [some other planet name]?  Librarians and historians are ontologically different, destined by [some branch of science] to remain two ships passing in the night.


More seriously (even though now I&#039;m thinking about MadLibs), I find it interesting that you focus on trying to make a connection between these two parties, which is an issue that was fairly peripheral to what I was thinking about, even though it&#039;s an issue that is both &quot;all over&quot; and &quot;under&quot; what I wrote.  Part of the breach between &quot;us&quot; and &quot;them&quot; rests on, however, fairly different conceptions of professionalization and place in the academy (even though, yes, there are those who can &quot;go native&quot; and act as go-betweens on both sides).  There are structures that make it difficult to bridge the divide (e.g., each side has its own culture that it wants to protect and enforce in a &quot;why can&#039;t you do it my way&quot; mode) and recognizing those barriers to conversation is pretty necessary on both sides (which assumes that people actually care enough to want to surmount these barriers).


But since you are part of The Mysterious Other, do you see yourself (and perhaps other historians) in this little survey of information-seeking behavior?  More importantly,  what about the penultimate set of questions (regarding how well our current tools serve historians)?  If you needed to learn more about, for some reason, labor history, would you feel that the best path is to just search in the catalog or in a database (and if so, which one would you use?)?  Or would you prefer to ask someone with expertise in the field?  Should this matter to librarians?  Am I setting up a false distinction?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clio, look at you celebrating hybridity!  You&#8217;re so post-something.  Haven&#8217;t you read Historians are from [planet name] and Librarians are from [some other planet name]?  Librarians and historians are ontologically different, destined by [some branch of science] to remain two ships passing in the night.</p>
<p>More seriously (even though now I&#8217;m thinking about MadLibs), I find it interesting that you focus on trying to make a connection between these two parties, which is an issue that was fairly peripheral to what I was thinking about, even though it&#8217;s an issue that is both &#8220;all over&#8221; and &#8220;under&#8221; what I wrote.  Part of the breach between &#8220;us&#8221; and &#8220;them&#8221; rests on, however, fairly different conceptions of professionalization and place in the academy (even though, yes, there are those who can &#8220;go native&#8221; and act as go-betweens on both sides).  There are structures that make it difficult to bridge the divide (e.g., each side has its own culture that it wants to protect and enforce in a &#8220;why can&#8217;t you do it my way&#8221; mode) and recognizing those barriers to conversation is pretty necessary on both sides (which assumes that people actually care enough to want to surmount these barriers).</p>
<p>But since you are part of The Mysterious Other, do you see yourself (and perhaps other historians) in this little survey of information-seeking behavior?  More importantly,  what about the penultimate set of questions (regarding how well our current tools serve historians)?  If you needed to learn more about, for some reason, labor history, would you feel that the best path is to just search in the catalog or in a database (and if so, which one would you use?)?  Or would you prefer to ask someone with expertise in the field?  Should this matter to librarians?  Am I setting up a false distinction?</p>
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		<title>Comment on On scholarly communication among historians by Clio Bluestocking</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clio Bluestocking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 22:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having been on both sides, as an archivist and as an historian, I can say that the very first thing that I noticed was the different languages. Librarians and archivists are trained to be librarians and archivist, with the specific language and system of classification. Historians are trained to be historians, with the same. So, perhaps the first step is in learning the language -- both the words and the grammar. That is, both the terms and the issues around which those terms are structured. If a librarian knows those, then she/he can help provide a path to the information for the historian. Conversely, if the historian learns a little about how the librarian speaks and thinks, they become better scavengers.

The social issue is vastly important, and the fastest way to learn about something, sometimes. Both historians and librarians can learn a wealth of information about one another by talking to one another in educational ways, not in the service way that we tend to encouter one another. I don&#039;t think there is a single way to do this best, although the seminars that Rebecca was talking about are most intense. A mixture of blogs, conferences and other types of settings help disseminate this type of information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having been on both sides, as an archivist and as an historian, I can say that the very first thing that I noticed was the different languages. Librarians and archivists are trained to be librarians and archivist, with the specific language and system of classification. Historians are trained to be historians, with the same. So, perhaps the first step is in learning the language &#8212; both the words and the grammar. That is, both the terms and the issues around which those terms are structured. If a librarian knows those, then she/he can help provide a path to the information for the historian. Conversely, if the historian learns a little about how the librarian speaks and thinks, they become better scavengers.</p>
<p>The social issue is vastly important, and the fastest way to learn about something, sometimes. Both historians and librarians can learn a wealth of information about one another by talking to one another in educational ways, not in the service way that we tend to encouter one another. I don&#8217;t think there is a single way to do this best, although the seminars that Rebecca was talking about are most intense. A mixture of blogs, conferences and other types of settings help disseminate this type of information.</p>
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